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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

These browsers are identical across sessions. Same version of Chrome, same OS same configurations same fucking everything. Where your personal browser has unique fingerprints—installed extensions fonts, screen resolution etc.—these cloud browsers are like mass-produced clones. They're either running headless (invisible) or in a virtual display to fake being a real browser.

Anti-fraud systems typically flag suspicious activity based on:
  • IP reputation (data center IPs are suspicious)
  • Device fingerprinting (identical fingerprints across multiple users scream fraud)
  • Behavioral patterns (humans dont fill forms in 0.5 seconds)
But when legitimate AI agents create this exact pattern at scale fraud systems face a dilemma: block the AI traffic and lose legitimate business or allow it through and potentially open the floodgates to fraud.

[THANKS}
* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *

[/THANKS]

Its like a prison where all the inmates and guards suddenly wear identical uniforms. How the fuck do you tell whos who?

The Upcoming Golden Age of Agentic Carding

"But d0c, if that's true then I can just grab a plan of an AI agent and hit Booking and all other hard-to-hit sites?" Not so fast homie. Theres still a huge factor making this impossible right now: there simply arent enough people using AI agents yet.

Currently this tech is janky and costly, and only tech enthusiasts give a shit about it. Unless OpenAI forces them to companies have no incentive to whitelist and approve transactions made using AI agents. Ive tried it myself multiple times and most transactions still get rejected.

The golden age we're anticipating is the sweet spot where:
  • Enough normal people are using AI agents that companies are forced to accept their transactions
  • Antifraud systems havent yet caught up with ways to fingerprint and distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent agent use
This window of opportunity is coming—maybe within a year. When companies start losing millions by declining legitimate AI agent transactions theyll have to adapt. Theyll start whitelisting known agent IPs and browser fingerprints creating a massive vulnerability we can exploit.

View attachment 8455

Think of it like this: If banks suddenly decided that everyone wearing a blue shirt must be trustworthy, what would criminals do? They'd all start wearing fucking blue shirts.

The true vulnerability isnt just that agents can automate carding—its that legitimate agent traffic creates cover for fraudulent agent traffic because they look identical to antifraud systems.

Where The Rubber Meets The Road

Im not a fortune teller so I don't know exactly how this will play out. Maybe there are already sites that have struck deals with OpenAI to pre-approve agent transactions—thats for you to discover through testing.

What I do know is that as these agents become more mainstream fraud prevention will need to shift from "human vs. bot" detection to "good intent vs. bad intent" detection. Theyll need to look beyond the technical fingerprints to patterns in behavior and context.

For now agent platforms are still too new and untrusted to be reliable carding tools. But watch this space closely—when mainstream adoption forces companies to accept agent-initiated transactions, there will be a window of opportunity before security catches up.

The uniformity of agent infrastructure creates the perfect storm: legitimate transactions that look identical to fraudulent ones forcing companies to lower their security standards to avoid false positives.

When that day comes, I'll be here saying I told you so. The only question is whether you'll be ready to capitalize on it.

d0ctrine out.
right on
 

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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

These browsers are identical across sessions. Same version of Chrome, same OS same configurations same fucking everything. Where your personal browser has unique fingerprints—installed extensions fonts, screen resolution etc.—these cloud browsers are like mass-produced clones. They're either running headless (invisible) or in a virtual display to fake being a real browser.

Anti-fraud systems typically flag suspicious activity based on:
  • IP reputation (data center IPs are suspicious)
  • Device fingerprinting (identical fingerprints across multiple users scream fraud)
  • Behavioral patterns (humans dont fill forms in 0.5 seconds)
But when legitimate AI agents create this exact pattern at scale fraud systems face a dilemma: block the AI traffic and lose legitimate business or allow it through and potentially open the floodgates to fraud.

[THANKS}
* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *

[/THANKS]

Its like a prison where all the inmates and guards suddenly wear identical uniforms. How the fuck do you tell whos who?

The Upcoming Golden Age of Agentic Carding

"But d0c, if that's true then I can just grab a plan of an AI agent and hit Booking and all other hard-to-hit sites?" Not so fast homie. Theres still a huge factor making this impossible right now: there simply arent enough people using AI agents yet.

Currently this tech is janky and costly, and only tech enthusiasts give a shit about it. Unless OpenAI forces them to companies have no incentive to whitelist and approve transactions made using AI agents. Ive tried it myself multiple times and most transactions still get rejected.

The golden age we're anticipating is the sweet spot where:
  • Enough normal people are using AI agents that companies are forced to accept their transactions
  • Antifraud systems havent yet caught up with ways to fingerprint and distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent agent use
This window of opportunity is coming—maybe within a year. When companies start losing millions by declining legitimate AI agent transactions theyll have to adapt. Theyll start whitelisting known agent IPs and browser fingerprints creating a massive vulnerability we can exploit.

View attachment 8455

Think of it like this: If banks suddenly decided that everyone wearing a blue shirt must be trustworthy, what would criminals do? They'd all start wearing fucking blue shirts.

The true vulnerability isnt just that agents can automate carding—its that legitimate agent traffic creates cover for fraudulent agent traffic because they look identical to antifraud systems.

Where The Rubber Meets The Road

Im not a fortune teller so I don't know exactly how this will play out. Maybe there are already sites that have struck deals with OpenAI to pre-approve agent transactions—thats for you to discover through testing.

What I do know is that as these agents become more mainstream fraud prevention will need to shift from "human vs. bot" detection to "good intent vs. bad intent" detection. Theyll need to look beyond the technical fingerprints to patterns in behavior and context.

For now agent platforms are still too new and untrusted to be reliable carding tools. But watch this space closely—when mainstream adoption forces companies to accept agent-initiated transactions, there will be a window of opportunity before security catches up.

The uniformity of agent infrastructure creates the perfect storm: legitimate transactions that look identical to fraudulent ones forcing companies to lower their security standards to avoid false positives.

When that day comes, I'll be here saying I told you so. The only question is whether you'll be ready to capitalize on it.

d0ctrine out.
Golden!
 

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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

These browsers are identical across sessions. Same version of Chrome, same OS same configurations same fucking everything. Where your personal browser has unique fingerprints—installed extensions fonts, screen resolution etc.—these cloud browsers are like mass-produced clones. They're either running headless (invisible) or in a virtual display to fake being a real browser.

Anti-fraud systems typically flag suspicious activity based on:
  • IP reputation (data center IPs are suspicious)
  • Device fingerprinting (identical fingerprints across multiple users scream fraud)
  • Behavioral patterns (humans dont fill forms in 0.5 seconds)
But when legitimate AI agents create this exact pattern at scale fraud systems face a dilemma: block the AI traffic and lose legitimate business or allow it through and potentially open the floodgates to fraud.

[THANKS}
* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *

[/THANKS]

Its like a prison where all the inmates and guards suddenly wear identical uniforms. How the fuck do you tell whos who?

The Upcoming Golden Age of Agentic Carding

"But d0c, if that's true then I can just grab a plan of an AI agent and hit Booking and all other hard-to-hit sites?" Not so fast homie. Theres still a huge factor making this impossible right now: there simply arent enough people using AI agents yet.

Currently this tech is janky and costly, and only tech enthusiasts give a shit about it. Unless OpenAI forces them to companies have no incentive to whitelist and approve transactions made using AI agents. Ive tried it myself multiple times and most transactions still get rejected.

The golden age we're anticipating is the sweet spot where:
  • Enough normal people are using AI agents that companies are forced to accept their transactions
  • Antifraud systems havent yet caught up with ways to fingerprint and distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent agent use
This window of opportunity is coming—maybe within a year. When companies start losing millions by declining legitimate AI agent transactions theyll have to adapt. Theyll start whitelisting known agent IPs and browser fingerprints creating a massive vulnerability we can exploit.

View attachment 8455

Think of it like this: If banks suddenly decided that everyone wearing a blue shirt must be trustworthy, what would criminals do? They'd all start wearing fucking blue shirts.

The true vulnerability isnt just that agents can automate carding—its that legitimate agent traffic creates cover for fraudulent agent traffic because they look identical to antifraud systems.

Where The Rubber Meets The Road

Im not a fortune teller so I don't know exactly how this will play out. Maybe there are already sites that have struck deals with OpenAI to pre-approve agent transactions—thats for you to discover through testing.

What I do know is that as these agents become more mainstream fraud prevention will need to shift from "human vs. bot" detection to "good intent vs. bad intent" detection. Theyll need to look beyond the technical fingerprints to patterns in behavior and context.

For now agent platforms are still too new and untrusted to be reliable carding tools. But watch this space closely—when mainstream adoption forces companies to accept agent-initiated transactions, there will be a window of opportunity before security catches up.

The uniformity of agent infrastructure creates the perfect storm: legitimate transactions that look identical to fraudulent ones forcing companies to lower their security standards to avoid false positives.

When that day comes, I'll be here saying I told you so. The only question is whether you'll be ready to capitalize on it.

d0ctrine out.

this is brutal
 

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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

These browsers are identical across sessions. Same version of Chrome, same OS same configurations same fucking everything. Where your personal browser has unique fingerprints—installed extensions fonts, screen resolution etc.—these cloud browsers are like mass-produced clones. They're either running headless (invisible) or in a virtual display to fake being a real browser.

Anti-fraud systems typically flag suspicious activity based on:
  • IP reputation (data center IPs are suspicious)
  • Device fingerprinting (identical fingerprints across multiple users scream fraud)
  • Behavioral patterns (humans dont fill forms in 0.5 seconds)
But when legitimate AI agents create this exact pattern at scale fraud systems face a dilemma: block the AI traffic and lose legitimate business or allow it through and potentially open the floodgates to fraud.

[THANKS}
* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *

[/THANKS]

Its like a prison where all the inmates and guards suddenly wear identical uniforms. How the fuck do you tell whos who?

The Upcoming Golden Age of Agentic Carding

"But d0c, if that's true then I can just grab a plan of an AI agent and hit Booking and all other hard-to-hit sites?" Not so fast homie. Theres still a huge factor making this impossible right now: there simply arent enough people using AI agents yet.

Currently this tech is janky and costly, and only tech enthusiasts give a shit about it. Unless OpenAI forces them to companies have no incentive to whitelist and approve transactions made using AI agents. Ive tried it myself multiple times and most transactions still get rejected.

The golden age we're anticipating is the sweet spot where:
  • Enough normal people are using AI agents that companies are forced to accept their transactions
  • Antifraud systems havent yet caught up with ways to fingerprint and distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent agent use
This window of opportunity is coming—maybe within a year. When companies start losing millions by declining legitimate AI agent transactions theyll have to adapt. Theyll start whitelisting known agent IPs and browser fingerprints creating a massive vulnerability we can exploit.

View attachment 8455

Think of it like this: If banks suddenly decided that everyone wearing a blue shirt must be trustworthy, what would criminals do? They'd all start wearing fucking blue shirts.

The true vulnerability isnt just that agents can automate carding—its that legitimate agent traffic creates cover for fraudulent agent traffic because they look identical to antifraud systems.

Where The Rubber Meets The Road

Im not a fortune teller so I don't know exactly how this will play out. Maybe there are already sites that have struck deals with OpenAI to pre-approve agent transactions—thats for you to discover through testing.

What I do know is that as these agents become more mainstream fraud prevention will need to shift from "human vs. bot" detection to "good intent vs. bad intent" detection. Theyll need to look beyond the technical fingerprints to patterns in behavior and context.

For now agent platforms are still too new and untrusted to be reliable carding tools. But watch this space closely—when mainstream adoption forces companies to accept agent-initiated transactions, there will be a window of opportunity before security catches up.

The uniformity of agent infrastructure creates the perfect storm: legitimate transactions that look identical to fraudulent ones forcing companies to lower their security standards to avoid false positives.

When that day comes, I'll be here saying I told you so. The only question is whether you'll be ready to capitalize on it.

d0ctrine out.
Thank you
 

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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

These browsers are identical across sessions. Same version of Chrome, same OS same configurations same fucking everything. Where your personal browser has unique fingerprints—installed extensions fonts, screen resolution etc.—these cloud browsers are like mass-produced clones. They're either running headless (invisible) or in a virtual display to fake being a real browser.

Anti-fraud systems typically flag suspicious activity based on:
  • IP reputation (data center IPs are suspicious)
  • Device fingerprinting (identical fingerprints across multiple users scream fraud)
  • Behavioral patterns (humans dont fill forms in 0.5 seconds)
But when legitimate AI agents create this exact pattern at scale fraud systems face a dilemma: block the AI traffic and lose legitimate business or allow it through and potentially open the floodgates to fraud.

[THANKS}
* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *

[/THANKS]

Its like a prison where all the inmates and guards suddenly wear identical uniforms. How the fuck do you tell whos who?

The Upcoming Golden Age of Agentic Carding

"But d0c, if that's true then I can just grab a plan of an AI agent and hit Booking and all other hard-to-hit sites?" Not so fast homie. Theres still a huge factor making this impossible right now: there simply arent enough people using AI agents yet.

Currently this tech is janky and costly, and only tech enthusiasts give a shit about it. Unless OpenAI forces them to companies have no incentive to whitelist and approve transactions made using AI agents. Ive tried it myself multiple times and most transactions still get rejected.

The golden age we're anticipating is the sweet spot where:
  • Enough normal people are using AI agents that companies are forced to accept their transactions
  • Antifraud systems havent yet caught up with ways to fingerprint and distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent agent use
This window of opportunity is coming—maybe within a year. When companies start losing millions by declining legitimate AI agent transactions theyll have to adapt. Theyll start whitelisting known agent IPs and browser fingerprints creating a massive vulnerability we can exploit.

View attachment 8455

Think of it like this: If banks suddenly decided that everyone wearing a blue shirt must be trustworthy, what would criminals do? They'd all start wearing fucking blue shirts.

The true vulnerability isnt just that agents can automate carding—its that legitimate agent traffic creates cover for fraudulent agent traffic because they look identical to antifraud systems.

Where The Rubber Meets The Road

Im not a fortune teller so I don't know exactly how this will play out. Maybe there are already sites that have struck deals with OpenAI to pre-approve agent transactions—thats for you to discover through testing.

What I do know is that as these agents become more mainstream fraud prevention will need to shift from "human vs. bot" detection to "good intent vs. bad intent" detection. Theyll need to look beyond the technical fingerprints to patterns in behavior and context.

For now agent platforms are still too new and untrusted to be reliable carding tools. But watch this space closely—when mainstream adoption forces companies to accept agent-initiated transactions, there will be a window of opportunity before security catches up.

The uniformity of agent infrastructure creates the perfect storm: legitimate transactions that look identical to fraudulent ones forcing companies to lower their security standards to avoid false positives.

When that day comes, I'll be here saying I told you so. The only question is whether you'll be ready to capitalize on it.

d0ctrine out.
Thank you
 

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This is what I've been looking for the last couple of days.
 

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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

These browsers are identical across sessions. Same version of Chrome, same OS same configurations same fucking everything. Where your personal browser has unique fingerprints—installed extensions fonts, screen resolution etc.—these cloud browsers are like mass-produced clones. They're either running headless (invisible) or in a virtual display to fake being a real browser.

Anti-fraud systems typically flag suspicious activity based on:
  • IP reputation (data center IPs are suspicious)
  • Device fingerprinting (identical fingerprints across multiple users scream fraud)
  • Behavioral patterns (humans dont fill forms in 0.5 seconds)
But when legitimate AI agents create this exact pattern at scale fraud systems face a dilemma: block the AI traffic and lose legitimate business or allow it through and potentially open the floodgates to fraud.

[THANKS}
* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *

[/THANKS]

Its like a prison where all the inmates and guards suddenly wear identical uniforms. How the fuck do you tell whos who?

The Upcoming Golden Age of Agentic Carding

"But d0c, if that's true then I can just grab a plan of an AI agent and hit Booking and all other hard-to-hit sites?" Not so fast homie. Theres still a huge factor making this impossible right now: there simply arent enough people using AI agents yet.

Currently this tech is janky and costly, and only tech enthusiasts give a shit about it. Unless OpenAI forces them to companies have no incentive to whitelist and approve transactions made using AI agents. Ive tried it myself multiple times and most transactions still get rejected.

The golden age we're anticipating is the sweet spot where:
  • Enough normal people are using AI agents that companies are forced to accept their transactions
  • Antifraud systems havent yet caught up with ways to fingerprint and distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent agent use
This window of opportunity is coming—maybe within a year. When companies start losing millions by declining legitimate AI agent transactions theyll have to adapt. Theyll start whitelisting known agent IPs and browser fingerprints creating a massive vulnerability we can exploit.

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Think of it like this: If banks suddenly decided that everyone wearing a blue shirt must be trustworthy, what would criminals do? They'd all start wearing fucking blue shirts.

The true vulnerability isnt just that agents can automate carding—its that legitimate agent traffic creates cover for fraudulent agent traffic because they look identical to antifraud systems.

Where The Rubber Meets The Road

Im not a fortune teller so I don't know exactly how this will play out. Maybe there are already sites that have struck deals with OpenAI to pre-approve agent transactions—thats for you to discover through testing.

What I do know is that as these agents become more mainstream fraud prevention will need to shift from "human vs. bot" detection to "good intent vs. bad intent" detection. Theyll need to look beyond the technical fingerprints to patterns in behavior and context.

For now agent platforms are still too new and untrusted to be reliable carding tools. But watch this space closely—when mainstream adoption forces companies to accept agent-initiated transactions, there will be a window of opportunity before security catches up.

The uniformity of agent infrastructure creates the perfect storm: legitimate transactions that look identical to fraudulent ones forcing companies to lower their security standards to avoid false positives.

When that day comes, I'll be here saying I told you so. The only question is whether you'll be ready to capitalize on it.

d0ctrine out.
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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

这些浏览器在各个会话中都完全相同。相同版本的Chrome、相同的操作系统、相同的配置,一切都完全相同。你的个人浏览器拥有独特的“指纹”——安装的扩展程序、字体、屏幕分辨率等等——而这些云浏览器就像批量生产的克隆版。它们要么无头运行(不可见),要么在虚拟显示器上伪装成真正的浏览器。

反欺诈系统通常根据以下情况标记可疑活动:
  • IP信誉(数据中心IP可疑)
  • 设备指纹识别(多个用户相同的指纹表明存在欺诈行为)
  • 行为模式(人类不会在 0.5 秒内填写表格)
但是,当合法的人工智能代理大规模创建这种精确模式时,欺诈系统将面临一个两难境地:阻止人工智能流量并失去合法业务,或者允许其通过并可能打开欺诈的闸门。

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就像监狱里所有囚犯和狱警突然都穿上了一样的制服。你他妈的怎么分得清谁是谁?

代理梳理的黄金时代即将到来

“但是,老兄,如果真是这样,那我是不是可以直接买个AI客服,然后去Booking和其他所有很难被抢到的网站?” 兄弟,别急。目前还有一个巨大的因素阻碍着这成为可能:使用AI客服的人还不够多。

目前这项技术既老旧又昂贵,只有科技爱好者才会在意。除非OpenAI强制要求,否则企业没有动力将使用AI代理的交易列入白名单并批准。我自己也尝试过很多次,但大多数交易仍然会被拒绝。

我们期待的黄金时代是这样的:
  • 越来越多的普通人开始使用人工智能代理,以至于公司被迫接受他们的交易
  • 反欺诈系统尚未找到识别和区分合法和欺诈代理使用的方法
这个机会之窗即将到来——或许一年之内就会到来。当企业开始因为拒绝合法的AI代理交易而损失数百万美元时,他们就必须适应。他们将开始将已知的代理IP和浏览器指纹列入白名单,这将造成一个巨大的漏洞,我们可以利用。

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试想一下:如果银行突然认定所有穿蓝衬衫的人都值得信赖,那么罪犯会怎么做?他们都会开始穿蓝衬衫。

真正的漏洞不仅仅在于代理商可以自动进行信用卡梳理,还在于合法的代理商流量为欺诈性的代理商流量提供了掩护,因为它们看起来与反欺诈系统完全相同。

橡胶与道路的接触点

我不是算命先生,所以我不知道最终结果会怎样。或许已经有一些网站与OpenAI达成协议,预先批准代理交易——这还有待你通过测试来发现。

我所知道的是,随着这些代理越来越主流,欺诈预防将需要从“人机对抗机器人”的检测转向“善意对抗恶意”的检测。他们需要超越技术指纹,洞察行为和情境中的模式。

目前,代理平台仍然太新,且缺乏信任,无法成为可靠的信用卡梳理工具。但请密切关注这一领域——当主流采用迫使公司接受代理发起的交易时,在安全性赶上之前,将会有一个机会窗口。

代理基础设施的统一性造成了完美风暴:合法交易看起来与欺诈交易完全相同,迫使公司降低安全标准以避免误报。

等那一天到来,我会在这里告诉你,我早就告诉过你了。唯一的问题是,你是否准备好利用它。

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View attachment 8447🤖 Proof of Concept: Carding With AI Agents 🤖

If youve been reading most of my guides youd know by now that I like to be at the bleeding edge of technology. I always try to discover new ways to bypass new shit or break even newer shit up. Having this approach to technology is the only way to keep up with advances in payment and site security.




And whats more bleeding edge than AI agents? Today we'll dive into what AI agents are their possible relationship with carding and how we might exploit them for more profit.


AI Agents

AI agents are autonomous software systems that can operate independently to perform tasks online. Unlike traditional bots that follow fixed scripts, these fuckers can actually think make decisions and navigate websites just like a human would.

Picture this: an AI agent is basically a digital ghost that possesses a web browser. It can click buttons fill forms, navigate menus and complete transactions without human intervention. Platforms like OpenAIs ChatGPT Operator Chinas Manus AI and Replits agent framework are leading this charge.

What makes these agents interesting for our purposes is that they don't just follow predefined paths—they adapt, troubleshoot and execute complex tasks like a human would. Want to book a flight? Find a hotel? Buy some shit online? These agents can handle it all.

The technical shit works like this: The system takes screenshots of the browser feeds them to an AI vision model that identifies whats on screen then the AI decides what action to take next. "See that Add to Cart button? Click there." The browser executes the command, takes another screenshot and the cycle repeats. All this happens in milliseconds creating a feedback loop that mimics human browsing behavior.

The promise? In the future you could potentially feed your agent a list of cards and have it card a bunch of sites while you kick back with a beer. That's not fantasy—thats where this tech is headed.

Architecture and Antifraud

What really keeps payment companies awake at night isnt just the idea that carders can get an AI slave to do transactions. Hell, you could pay some random dude on Fiverr to do that. No whats making them shit bricks is that the infrastructure of these AI platforms fundamentally undermines all the tools their antifraud systems use to block transactions.

Let's break down a typical AI agent platform like ChatGPT Operator:

See these platforms run on cloud-based Linux servers with automated Chrome browsers. Every agent session launches from the same data center IPs owned by companies like OpenAI or Manus. When you use Operator your request isnt coming from your home IP—its coming from OpenAIs servers in some AWS data center in Virginia.

These browsers are identical across sessions. Same version of Chrome, same OS same configurations same fucking everything. Where your personal browser has unique fingerprints—installed extensions fonts, screen resolution etc.—these cloud browsers are like mass-produced clones. They're either running headless (invisible) or in a virtual display to fake being a real browser.

Anti-fraud systems typically flag suspicious activity based on:
  • IP reputation (data center IPs are suspicious)
  • Device fingerprinting (identical fingerprints across multiple users scream fraud)
  • Behavioral patterns (humans dont fill forms in 0.5 seconds)
But when legitimate AI agents create this exact pattern at scale fraud systems face a dilemma: block the AI traffic and lose legitimate business or allow it through and potentially open the floodgates to fraud.

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Its like a prison where all the inmates and guards suddenly wear identical uniforms. How the fuck do you tell whos who?

The Upcoming Golden Age of Agentic Carding

"But d0c, if that's true then I can just grab a plan of an AI agent and hit Booking and all other hard-to-hit sites?" Not so fast homie. Theres still a huge factor making this impossible right now: there simply arent enough people using AI agents yet.

Currently this tech is janky and costly, and only tech enthusiasts give a shit about it. Unless OpenAI forces them to companies have no incentive to whitelist and approve transactions made using AI agents. Ive tried it myself multiple times and most transactions still get rejected.

The golden age we're anticipating is the sweet spot where:
  • Enough normal people are using AI agents that companies are forced to accept their transactions
  • Antifraud systems havent yet caught up with ways to fingerprint and distinguish between legitimate and fraudulent agent use
This window of opportunity is coming—maybe within a year. When companies start losing millions by declining legitimate AI agent transactions theyll have to adapt. Theyll start whitelisting known agent IPs and browser fingerprints creating a massive vulnerability we can exploit.

View attachment 8455

Think of it like this: If banks suddenly decided that everyone wearing a blue shirt must be trustworthy, what would criminals do? They'd all start wearing fucking blue shirts.

The true vulnerability isnt just that agents can automate carding—its that legitimate agent traffic creates cover for fraudulent agent traffic because they look identical to antifraud systems.

Where The Rubber Meets The Road

Im not a fortune teller so I don't know exactly how this will play out. Maybe there are already sites that have struck deals with OpenAI to pre-approve agent transactions—thats for you to discover through testing.

What I do know is that as these agents become more mainstream fraud prevention will need to shift from "human vs. bot" detection to "good intent vs. bad intent" detection. Theyll need to look beyond the technical fingerprints to patterns in behavior and context.

For now agent platforms are still too new and untrusted to be reliable carding tools. But watch this space closely—when mainstream adoption forces companies to accept agent-initiated transactions, there will be a window of opportunity before security catches up.

The uniformity of agent infrastructure creates the perfect storm: legitimate transactions that look identical to fraudulent ones forcing companies to lower their security standards to avoid false positives.

When that day comes, I'll be here saying I told you so. The only question is whether you'll be ready to capitalize on it.

d0ctrine out.
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